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2012 Iowa Republican Caucus Results

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An interactive map that you can watch to see the results by county as they come in.

CNN has a similar map here.

MSNBC has one here.

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Iowa has 28 total delegates.

25 determined by today's caucuses and 3 unpledged RNC delegates

 

 

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Dennis P McCann

Here we can watch the results come in and talk about how little it matters....

  • 21 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:59 PM EST
Greenwood10

Santorum has a small lead over Romney with both around 24%.

  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:40 PM EST
Z1P2

Iowa must have open primaries... no other explanation for the candidate with the worst possible chance of winning in the general election beating the candidate with the best possible chance of winning in the general election... I can't really help but laugh at that though.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:26 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Iowa must have open primaries..

Iowa has closed caucuses.

no other explanation for the candidate with the worst possible chance of winning in the general election beating the candidate with the best possible chance of winning in the general election

Um...can you be more specific? None of them have a shot in hell of winning the general election.

  • 7 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:32 PM EST
Z1P2

Romney has a damn better chance than Santorum... and are you serious? Iowa has closed caucuses?? That's just hillarious!! Republicans really are that stupid!! OMFG!! ROFL!!

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:47 PM EST
gmross

Z1P2, here's another laugh for you, Iowa hasn't picked a winner in the GOP except one time since 1973, that winner was George W. Bush.

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:55 PM EST
Z1P2

Well that really doesn't mean anything gmross.

I say the GOP should go for it though... let's have an election to put up a real fascist against a moderate by comparisson Obama... let's just see what happens.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:00 AM EST
gmross

Oh I agree Z, it should be fun until November to watch how they play this.

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:14 AM EST
rimbauda

that winner was George W. Bush.

Are you sure he was the winner?

  • 4 votes
#1.8 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:17 AM EST
Reliant

Wow, Romney could not even capture half of the 25 counties, and in many of the counties he did not take he did not even managed to get into the top three. Talk about lack of enthusiasm, he has been running for years and still ranked 5th or 6th in some counties. Poor Jon Huntsman the only sane moderate man in the pack ranked last in every county. God save America, the inmates are trying to gain control of the asylum.

  • 8 votes
#1.9 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:18 AM EST
gmross

rimbauda,

Are you sure he was the winner?

Well, that is what the SCOTUS said after daddy Bush talked to them, in private!

  • 8 votes
#1.10 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:22 AM EST
ryoushi12

And another straw poll in Iowa is done.

For those of us who live in caucus states, there is NOTHING funnier than watching the pundits and everyone else take this non-binding straw poll seriously.

Folks, ALL that happened was a bunch of people got together and elected a bunch of delegates to whatever the NEXT level is in the convention system, along with various proposals for the state party platform in Iowa. I KNOW this, because we do the SAME thing in Minnesota in February. And the DELEGATES elected tonight will go to district or county conventions, which will do the SAME things the caucuses did, except with more authority over party policy and operation issues, and THEY will elect delegates who undoubtedly will have a somewhat DIFFERENT makeup than the ones from tonight (including presidential candidate preferences) and these will go to another convention perhaps, and then you get to the STATE convention, and, even IF santorum "split" first place with romney, or even beats him by 20 votes tonight, by the STATE convention, romney could walk away with 2/3 of the delegates Iowa republicans send to the national convention, depending on the internal wheeling and dealing.

And that folks, is how the caucus system works.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 1:57 AM EST
Walt42

I guess it was predictable when I learned how evangelical Iowa is. IMHO, Santorum, like Perry and Bachmann have not a chance. When the real voters find out that these three are Dominionists, they will run away. Especially the northeast; evangelicals may appeal along the bible belt, but nowhere else.

I'm amazed that Paul and Gingrich did as well. Both are certified wackos, IMHO. Paul wants to dismantle 50 years of progress and Gingrich is too narcissistic.

I'm also amazed that Huntsman did as bad. He actually has the best credientials (but the Republican National Committee, obviously don't like him).

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 4:48 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Santorum, like Perry and Bachmann have not a chance. When the real voters find out that these three are Dominionists, they will run away.

Yep. Bachmann dropped out today, and Perry is headed top Texas to lick his wounds, er, reassess his campaign. Two down, and Santorum wil drop drastically in New Hampshire.

Huntsman, probably the sanest of the lot, never really had a chance.

That leaves Romney, Gingrich and Paul. Paul is kinda nuts, and Gingrich has way too much baggage.

Romney is inevitable.

  • 6 votes
#1.13 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 4:53 PM EST
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Pat-#@!&!#@

I'll stop back in a bit.

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:13 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

It's 6:15 PM in Iowa. Be a while before anything happens.

  • 10 votes
#2.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:15 PM EST
Reply
TR-421173

Looks about right. Has all their names & pics with zeros behind them. ;) But hey, at least they got the pics right, that is better than some "news" organizations. ;)

  • 10 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:16 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

lol. People may not realize it, but those are the final results. ;)

Nah. The results should start coming in just after 7 Iowa time. The question, really, is which one of these clowns will come out on top, and which ones will be so embarrassed that they'll consider dropping out.

I think Huntsman will drop out after today. He's probably the only one with enough common sense to see the writing on the wall.

  • 14 votes
#3.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:23 PM EST
storyartist

Or the only one without a book to sell.

Who buys these books, anyway?

  • 11 votes
#3.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:27 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Not a clue.

If they put them in the comedy section, though, they'd probably sell more of them.

  • 7 votes
#3.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:34 PM EST
TR-421173

Stocking up for armageddon again, my guess is they buy them at .99 a piece & stock them for toilet paper. In the tp section they would sell more of them.

  • 6 votes
#3.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:36 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

I think the people who donate to their campaigns buy the books, but without knowing it. They use the campaign money to buy books, which they then give to those who gave campaign money, which was used to buy books, and so on. Makes it look like people actually bought the damn things.

  • 11 votes
#3.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:40 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

I think Huntsman will drop out after today.

He pretty much said he's betting on New Hampshire. If he loses there he's probably out.

Who buys these books, anyway?

Their PACs and campaigns. And the random cornhusker :-). At least that's how it was with Palin.

  • 10 votes
#3.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:46 PM EST
Lola-Ohio

Watch for Fox to put a (D) after Ron Paul's name regarding the primaries. OOOps, now they wouldn't do that, they love him. HaHa, the way Paul makes em squirm during those debates have been frickin' hilarious. Keep in it Ron.

  • 1 vote
#3.7 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 1:58 PM EST
Reply
Fletch-495299

This will be interesting.

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:41 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Yeah, in a how does this even matter sort of way....

  • 8 votes
#4.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:43 PM EST
not over it

Yeah, in a how does this even matter sort of way....

Agreed but with 40% still undecided it might be interesting even thought it really seems like it doesn't matter.

  • 8 votes
#4.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:45 PM EST
Fletch-495299

Well, for me its interesting to see who lied the best to the voters and was able to get their vote. (or if those lies cost them).

  • 7 votes
#4.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:51 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Or we could look at it as the Iowa State IQ test....

  • 9 votes
#4.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:54 PM EST
not over it

Hahahaha!

No matter the results, they all flunk.

  • 8 votes
#4.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:59 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

If I was an Iowa Republican (yeah, right) I'd cast my vote for "Are you @!$%#ing kidding me?"

  • 14 votes
#4.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:06 PM EST
Neetu M.

Can you imagine what the country could do with all the money that is going into "toilet paper rolls" for campaign funding? It is appalling that people have money for this, but not that!

  • 3 votes
#4.7 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:45 PM EST
Reply
lets think

I enjoy the best laughs on your seeds Dennis, great comments.

  • 8 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:11 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Thanks.

  • 7 votes
#5.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:17 PM EST
Reply
Dennis P McCann

CNN is saying this:

Early results of CNN Iowa entrance poll: First tier is Paul, Romney, Santorum. Actual votes, projections within the hour.

  • 8 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:20 PM EST
Neetu M.

At least Bachmann is down at the bottom! I never expected much from the evangelists there anyway.

  • 6 votes
#6.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:29 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Think she'll get the hint?

Nevermind. No need to answer. Of course she won't.

  • 6 votes
#6.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:34 PM EST
Neetu M.

you got it!

  • 5 votes
#6.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:35 PM EST
Reply
Dennis P McCann

Results are slowly beginning to trickle in. Warren County, with 4% reporting, has Paul at 50% and Perry and Santorum at 16.7% each.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:41 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

With 8% in, here's where we are:

  • Paul 2,273 24%
  • Santorum 2,160 23%
  • Romney 2,152 23%
  • Gingrich 1,238 13%
  • Perry 886 10%
  • Bachmann 588 6%
  • Huntsman 53 1%

Source: CNN

  • 6 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:04 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

At 12%:

  • Paul 3,581 24%
  • Romney 3,466 23%
  • Santorum 3,442 23%
  • Gingrich 1,956 13%
  • Perry 1,439 10%
  • Bachmann 929 6%
  • Huntsman 92 1%
  • 6 votes
#8.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:09 PM EST
MJL-3

http://elections.msnbc.msn.com/ns/politics/2012/iowa/republican/caucus/

  • 4 votes
#8.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:10 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Pretty much identical to CNNs version. My guess is they're using the same sources.

  • 4 votes
#8.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:12 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

15%:

  • Paul 4,440 24%
  • Santorum 4,292 23%
  • Romney 4,183 23%
  • Gingrich 2,460 13%
  • Perry 1,817 10%
  • Bachmann 1,096 6%
  • Huntsman 126 1%
  • 4 votes
#8.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:24 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

What happens if there is a statistical tie with the top two or the top three?

  • 4 votes
#8.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:31 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

I doubt it's possible. Percentage-wise it is, but not by actual votes.

I don't know Iowa election law, but I would assume that a tie would mean a run-off...which would be exceedingly weird considering it's the first state in the nation to vote.

  • 5 votes
#8.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:41 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

a tie would mean a run-off...which would be exceedingly weird

Or a re-count? That would be weird too for a primary.

  • 4 votes
#8.7 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:43 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

There's no way to recount a caucus. Right now there are rooms full of people all over Iowa wheeling and dealing to get votes. It's not a traditional election with ballots that can be recounted.

  • 5 votes
#8.8 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:52 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

Oh, so how do they get their votes? Sorry to be dense but I never studied how primaries are conducted. It's interesting.

  • 4 votes
#8.9 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:34 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Primaries are easy. Caucuses are different, and Iowa is just plain strange. Right now they're electing delegates to elect delegates to go to the convention and vote for who the hell knows who.

Make sense?

  • 3 votes
#8.10 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:42 PM EST
Lemon Friend

I thought the Republicans went to a proportional apportionment of delegates this year?

  • 1 vote
#8.11 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:44 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Yeah, sort of. We discussed that down below. I had it wrong, but Student of Life corrected me.

  • 2 votes
#8.12 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:56 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

Thank you Dennis, it doesn't make sense yet but I'll look into it more tomorrow. Right now I'n listening to Newt wheeze out his philosophy.

Now it's Perry. Still stupid.

  • 2 votes
#8.13 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:54 PM EST
Reply
TR-421173

I can understand the votes for Paul & Romney, but I can't believe that Santorum is doing that well. Sad, but then again there are people voting for Bachmann & Perry, so for some there is no hope.

  • 8 votes
Reply#9 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:29 PM EST
gmross

Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, Rick Santorum all at 23%, according to what I have seen in the past this means that none of these guys will be POTUS.

  • 9 votes
Reply#10 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:30 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Hell, they can run as a committee against Obama and they'd still lose.

  • 10 votes
#10.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:39 PM EST
Reply
Fletch-495299

Other 14 votes Cain 5

  • 7 votes
Reply#11 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:33 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Voting for people who aren't even running. Someone say something about an IQ test?

  • 9 votes
#11.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:35 PM EST
Reply
Dennis P McCann

With 22%:

  • Romney 6,297 23%
  • Santorum 6,256 23%
  • Paul 6,240 23%
  • Gingrich 3,596 13%
  • Perry 2,833 10%
  • Bachmann 1,608 6%
  • Huntsman 169 1%
  • 7 votes
#12 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:38 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

31% in:

  • Romney 7,844 24%
  • Santorum 7,726 23%
  • Paul 7,655 23%
  • Gingrich 4,440 13%
  • Perry 3,433 10%
  • Bachmann 1,932 6%
  • Huntsman 211 1%
  • 5 votes
#12.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:49 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

MSNBC is reporting 41% in:

  • Rick Santorum 24% 12,231
  • Mitt Romney 24% 12,124
  • Ron Paul 22% 11,117
  • Newt Gingrich 13% 6,701
  • Rick Perry 10% 5,106
  • Michele Bachmann 6% 2,874
  • Jon Huntsman 1% 293

Santorum??

  • 6 votes
#12.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:05 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

And CNN at 46%:

  • Santorum 12,417 24%
  • Romney 12,255 24%
  • Paul 11,238 22%
  • Gingrich 6,788 13%
  • Perry 5,156 10%
  • Bachmann 2,917 6%
  • Huntsman 299 1%

  • 5 votes
#12.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:07 PM EST
Marshall James

wtf???? santorum??

he is the worst possible candidate in my opinion...he hates everyone.

last week he was at what 4%....what the hell?? damn the media is a powerful tool...they pushed him over the last week...guess it worked...and shows how stupid americans are.

@!$%#ING SANTORUM??????

UNBELIEVABLE.

  • 11 votes
#12.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:21 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

@!$%#ING SANTORUM??????

I know, I know...

  • 7 votes
#12.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:28 PM EST
Charmonium

Indeed, very bizarre.

  • 4 votes
#12.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:30 PM EST
TR-421173

Santorum is who Rupert Murdoch/Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud of Saudi Arabia who = Fox have chosen to endorse.

  • 4 votes
#12.7 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:33 PM EST
Marshall James

people need to wake the @!$%# up....corporations are buying who we get as politicians.....and yes democrats that goes for you too.

wall street gives more to obama than all the republicans combined.

@!$%#....if the dumbass republicans vote santorum in.....jesus....obama is a shoe in.....it would probably be the biggest blowout in the history of presidential elections.

hell I might even vote for Obama just to show those stupid @!$%#ing republicans who voted for Santorum just how stupid they @!$%#ing are.

oh this has me livid........SANTORUM????????

  • 6 votes
#12.8 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:49 PM EST
Marshall James

we are doomed as a country if we are stupid enough to vote for the hatemonger santorum.

  • 6 votes
#12.9 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:51 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Santorum and Romney each have 25%. Paul has 21%.

  • 4 votes
#12.10 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:59 PM EST
Charmonium

That army guy in Ron Paul's camp who wants to see a little peace may have to wait a while.

  • 6 votes
#12.11 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:59 PM EST
Marshall James

well with either obama, santorum or romney as our president...

lets get ready for some more war people!!!!!!!!!

yippee!!!!!

  • 3 votes
#12.12 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:09 PM EST
Charmonium

True that.

At least there has been a little progress since the last primary.

But it's not over until the fat lady sings!

  • 1 vote
#12.13 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:14 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Don't put so much stock in the Iowa caucus. They hardly ever get it right.

  • 5 votes
#12.14 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:15 PM EST
Marshall James

Its probably going to blow the liberals mind on here.....but if Ron Paul doesnt win the nomination I will probably become one of the most vocal and intolerant people on here in regards to republicans.

While it makes me happy that his numbers has improved from 4 years ago...the results tonight show just how much the stupid @!$%#ing republicans let fear rule them............santorum....hell I can see losing to Romney...but santorum???

this is just blowing my mind.....I am at a loss for thoughtful words.

I am terrified for my country.

  • 3 votes
#12.15 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:19 PM EST
Marshall James

dennis

this was the state Ron Paul was supposed to do the best in...if he doesnt do well here..just means we are getting some @!$%#ing idiot who wants to kill brown people in there.

republicans are turning their backs on the military...and those who serve.

its disgusting and I will rip these stupid ass republicans apart in the coming year...if they dont pull their head out of their ass.

  • 3 votes
#12.16 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:21 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

if Ron Paul doesnt win the nomination I will probably become one of the most vocal and intolerant people on here in regards to republicans.

You might as well start yesterday.

  • 4 votes
#12.17 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:22 PM EST
Charmonium

I couldn't agree with you more James. This country is in trouble (to put in mildly).

They honor the military only when it's convenient to them.

Hopefully, the other states will be a little smarter.

  • 2 votes
#12.18 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:23 PM EST
Reply
Spooky Boyfriend

Conselor, an aside please...

(...so does this Iowa Caucus count as an official Republican primary? I'm easily confused; it was the '70's and everything was so cheap and easy to get...)

Wasn't there just a "straw pole" with Bachmann winning?

  • 4 votes
#13 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:00 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Yes. 25 delegates go to the winner, with three more going to whomever the Iowa RNC awards them to at the convention (usually the same person).

Straw polls mean nothing. They simply gauge opinion at the time.

  • 6 votes
#13.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:09 PM EST
Student of Life

Dennis,

Actually, that's not correct. Iowa is not a 'winner take all' state, the delegates will be given proportionately, meaning Paul, Santorum, and Romney each will likely get 8 delegates, or the front runner gets 9 and the second plate gets 7 and so forth.

  • 5 votes
#13.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:19 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

I should point out that Iowa is not a bellweather state. They're wrong more often than they're right. But what really matters about this is campaign contributions.

People who are on the fence, not sure who to contribute to, will look at this as an indication of who is more likely to get the nomination as opposed to those who have no shot.

So say you can't decide between Bachmann (R-Mars) and Santorum (R-Heaven) since they hold pretty much the same positions. You look at these results, give your money to Santorum, then regret it for the rest of your life.

  • 7 votes
#13.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:19 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

SoL, I stand corrected.

The Hawkeye State will send 28 delegates to the Republican National Convention in Tampa Aug. 23, out of 2,286 voting delegates total, but all of Iowa’s delegates will be “unbound,” or free to vote for any candidate for president or vice president. Iowa works differently from most states, which will award delegates to presidential candidates proportionally, according to how much of the vote each candidate captures. Most of those delegates will be required to vote for a specific candidate during the first round of voting at the national convention. Iowa’s won’t.

link

  • 5 votes
#13.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:25 PM EST
Student of Life

No worries Dennis, most of the time you're the one correcting me...

  • 6 votes
#13.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:27 PM EST
Spooky Boyfriend

...uhm, well if the delegates are unbound, what's the point of calling them delegates?

Am I missing something?

  • 5 votes
#13.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:31 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

No, you're not missing anything. Iowa is ...weird.

  • 7 votes
#13.7 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:34 PM EST
TR-421173

Obviously, and not the good kind of weird.

  • 5 votes
#13.8 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:37 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

I think it's the corn.

  • 5 votes
#13.9 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:38 PM EST
Spooky Boyfriend

...yet another question from the left coast; is the Iowa Democratic party also doing a caucus? If so, how many caucasers have voted? They are called caucusers, right?

  • 3 votes
#13.10 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:49 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

No. Obama is running unopposed. No Democrat caucus.

  • 5 votes
#13.11 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:55 PM EST
Spooky Boyfriend

...I guess it must cost money to throw one of these parties but I think the Iowa Democratic partiers should throw down just to get out the vote. Ames, Des moines, that TM town (Fairfield?) and Council Bluffs could scare up 70,000 votes.

It also might not look good for the Iowa Democratics to stage a faux election. I wish I was smarter.

  • 2 votes
#13.12 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:05 PM EST
Mark in Wyoming

since , no one is running against pres Obama , they dont have to caucus , and he gets all the dem delegates awarded to him .

another furthernote , if one goes back and looks at past winners of iowa, they are a crap shoot as Dennis stated , its not a bell weather state primary .

over the past 25 yrs as to the winner of iowa going on to win the nomination in 88 Iowa went to dole , Bush was the nominee, it went to huckabee in 08 and the nominee was mccain , 2000,96 and 93 it went to the eventual nomenee whom ran for president , and in 2004 , even though Bush2 had people running against him he had the incumbent edge and it went to him .

more telling would be super tuesday , later this yr when multiple state primaries are held on the same day .

  • 4 votes
#13.13 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:13 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Spooky, they'll be out for the general election. You know, after the Republican party picks it's loser.

  • 6 votes
#13.14 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:13 PM EST
Spooky Boyfriend

...is it only the Iowa Republican party that operates caucusses (sp?) in this manner? I am truly have a bit of a time untangling this knotty skein of provincial politics. Is there an actual reason the Iowa system has been set up in this fashion?

  • 3 votes
#13.15 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 2:31 AM EST
Spooky Boyfriend

Me speak pretty one day.

  • 3 votes
#13.16 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 2:47 AM EST
Dennis P McCann

.is it only the Iowa Republican party that operates caucusses (sp?) in this manner?

Yeah, other states have caucuses, but this system is peculiar to Iowa.

Is there an actual reason the Iowa system has been set up in this fashion?

Um...drunken corn farmers?

  • 6 votes
#13.17 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 2:28 PM EST
Spooky Boyfriend

...figuratively, but not literally, I am rolling on the floor. Literally and actually, I am laughing out loud.

FbnLRotFL. L&IRL, LOL.

  • 4 votes
#13.18 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 3:57 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Hey, these guys spend their time drunkenly wandering through mazes of corn. They think that's the way things should be.

  • 6 votes
#13.19 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 4:08 PM EST
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mike the vet

I'm telling you it'll be a 3way tie and Trump will host an over the top battle royal for the crown #1 ratings guarantied.

  • 4 votes
Reply#14 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:17 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

May the deity of your choice help us all.

  • 5 votes
#14.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:27 PM EST
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charger383

Thanks for providing the updates

  • 5 votes
Reply#15 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:22 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Glad to.

  • 4 votes
Reply#16 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:27 PM EST
sms29s66

I heard Michele Bachmann predict that she would win and that it would be a miracle. That's what you want to see--a candidate who thinks it would be a miracle if she should win. What self confidence! What a maroon!

  • 6 votes
Reply#17 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:34 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

lol. Well, she's actually right for once. If she won, it would be a miracle....

  • 7 votes
#17.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:38 PM EST
rixxter-2564421

The very fact she's gotten this far is a miracle...

  • 3 votes
#17.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:43 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

This far? It's the first caucus. Hell, today is the starting point.

  • 7 votes
#17.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:49 PM EST
sms29s66

Aaaaahhhh, Michele. The age of miracles has indeed passed.

  • 5 votes
#17.4 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 1:03 PM EST
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Dennis P McCann

CNN, 52%:

  • Santorum 14,289 24%
  • Romney 13,935 24%
  • Paul 12,717 22%
  • Gingrich 7,837 13%
  • Perry 6,027 10%
  • Bachmann 3,278 6%
  • Huntsman 318 1%
  • 6 votes
Reply#18 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:37 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

and at 59%, it's a three way race between the guy with the magic underwear, the kindly old racist country Doctor, and the stuff you don't wanna get on ya...

  • Santorum 15,973 24%
  • Romney 15,389 24%
  • Paul 14,180 22%
  • Gingrich 8,727 13%
  • Perry 6,867 11%
  • Bachmann 3,583 5%
  • Huntsman 352 1%

Oh, and some other folks who really ought to hang it up.

  • 6 votes
#18.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:47 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

A Huge jump = 88% reporting. Iowa must have found it's cell phone.

  • Santorum 26,443 25%
  • Romney 26,398 25%
  • Paul 22,728 21%
  • Gingrich 14,244 13%
  • Perry 11,099 10%
  • Bachmann 5,496 5%
  • Huntsman 628 1%
  • 6 votes
#18.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:53 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

With 89% reporting Romney just pulled slightly ahead of Santorum in votes, though they are still tied at 25%.

  • 4 votes
#18.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:10 PM EST
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Baron von Steuben

You gotta be @!$%#tin me. Santorum? The guys a nut job!

  • 6 votes
Reply#19 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:04 PM EST
ombra

If nothing else, by voting Santorum so far up, Iowa has proven itself irrelevant to the process of picking Presidents.

As Huntsman said, Iowa picks corn not Presidents.

  • 5 votes
#19.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:09 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

You gotta be @!$%#tin me. Santorum? The guys a nut job!

They're all nut jobs, to one degree or another.

  • 3 votes
#19.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:11 PM EST
Student of Life

Keep in mind - there's what - 150,000 voters today out of a state with just over 3,000,000.

So we're talking about roughly 5% the Iowa population being reflected here.

Statistically speaking 7% of the population believes that the Earth is still flat, we never landed on the moon, and Elvis still lives.

  • 2 votes
#19.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:19 PM EST
YELLOW DOG D.

And they all voted tonight,sol.

  • 4 votes
#19.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:22 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Well, maybe not the Elvis people.

  • 4 votes
#19.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:29 PM EST
Baron von Steuben

Maybe, but if I can't have Paul at least give me Romney! I can't vote for any other Republican and I can't vote for Obama, so if neither of those two gets the nod I'll be staying home and drinking instead of voting for the president.

  • 1 vote
#19.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:30 PM EST
Matt in MN

I can't vote for Obama

Why not? If the candidate is Santorum - I have to vote Obama. There's no choice in that matter for me. I mean, a pledge to attack Iran with the crack pot religious theories? No thanks.

If the candidate is Romney - I will vote Obama. Romney wants to increase the role of government, but, without a handout or the common decency of a "reach-around". At least, I can further my own cause by voting for Obama.

Here's hoping Huntsman does well in NH.

  • 7 votes
#19.7 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 1:27 PM EST
MJL-3

Poor little Michelle Bachman is going to quit.

HA HA HA

  • 4 votes
#19.8 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 4:59 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

She already did.

  • 5 votes
#19.9 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 5:07 PM EST
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Lemon Friend

It appears that Romney is winning in the population centers - Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Davenport, Sioux City, Omaha (NE) area. Any thoughts on why that would be?

  • 4 votes
Reply#20 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:14 PM EST
John Franklin Mason

Healthcare?

  • 2 votes
#20.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:19 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Sure. Urban areas are usually higher in education level. Those in the urban areas are smart enough to know that Romney is the inevitable nominee.

  • 7 votes
#20.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:20 PM EST
Student of Life

Open primary. There are a lot of 'independents' who would love to see Romney go up against Obama. Romney loses in the middle class battles, the healthcare fighting point is nullified, and Romney is the best chance the democrats have of the GOP splitting the ticket with a hard conservative.

  • 3 votes
#20.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:22 PM EST
John Franklin Mason

48% of Medicaid Welfare recipents are White and 27% are Black while Iwoa is 89% White so more than 48% of Iwoa Medicaid Welfare recipents are White.

They want Welfare for themselves and to deny it to those lazy folks that live off of Government Checks.

  • 4 votes
#20.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:28 PM EST
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charger383

The frothy mix floated to the top of the Iowa cesspool?

  • 6 votes
Reply#21 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:16 PM EST
RT-36

HA!!! Gross... :-/

  • 3 votes
#21.1 - Wed Jan 4, 2012 2:25 AM EST
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Dennis P McCann

And with 92% reporting:

  • Romney 27,830 25%
  • Santorum 27,817 25%
  • Paul 23,737 21%
  • Gingrich 14,961 13%
  • Perry 11,600 10%
  • Bachmann 5,690 5%
  • Huntsman 660 1%
  • 5 votes
Reply#22 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:18 PM EST
rixxter-2564421

Talk about being razor close...

  • 3 votes
#22.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:20 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Man, there's a joke in there somewhere. Something about magic underwear and the frothy mix....

  • 4 votes
#22.2 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:28 PM EST
YELLOW DOG D.

Anyone think the frothy mix will help santorum slip by the magic underwear man in the end.

  • 5 votes
#22.3 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:31 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

lol. I didn't say it. You said it. I didn't say it.

  • 4 votes
#22.4 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:34 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

95%:

  • Santorum 28,895 25%
  • Romney 28,841 25%
  • Paul 25,008 21%
  • Gingrich 15,553 13%
  • Perry 12,074 10%
  • Bachmann 5,891 5%
  • Huntsman 700 1%
  • 4 votes
#22.5 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:39 PM EST
Student of Life

Nope, I think Santorum will be washed out of the magic underwear by New Hampshire.

All that will be left after NH is the chaffing.

  • 8 votes
#22.6 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:40 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Yep, I agree. I'm a bit more interested, right now, in what those at the bottom will do as their campaign contributions dry up and no one takes them seriously at all (not that anyone was).

  • 5 votes
#22.7 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:47 PM EST
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Lemon Friend

I was feeling sorry for how poorly Huntsman was doing, until I remembered he decided to shun Iowa in favor of NH. As I recall, he slammed Iowa in the process.

  • 5 votes
Reply#23 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:41 PM EST
John Franklin Mason

Ron Paul is doing a George Wallace eh?

  • 8 votes
Reply#24 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:44 PM EST
YELLOW DOG D.

I guess old ron will have to split off and run on the Stars and Bars party ticket. Johnson has already signed up on the Outer Space party ticket.

  • 7 votes
#24.1 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:51 PM EST
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WeldDem

None of these represents any one that I know nor would I vote for them. Proves the point IOWA means Idiots out wandering about.

  • 6 votes
Reply#25 - Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:48 PM EST
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